Hi there
Was over at the local PAH the other day and saw this food they had free samples of the stuff so took a couple to try out on my puppy and her mum.
Was wondering if anyone has used this one b4,  I normally feed them both Arden Grange.

This stuff looks pretty good on paper here are the details:
Turkey Meat meal (min29*/.)Brown rice(25*/.)Whole grain Barley (min 10*/.)  potato protein, refined poultry oil whole linseed (min4*/.) sugar beet pulp (min4*/.)
natural seaweed (min0.4*/.) low allergen poltry digest as gravy, alfalfa, sodium chloride!! potassium chloride, methionine, marigold extract, yucca extract, L-carnitine, rosemary extract

Protein 30*/.  Oils and fats15*/.  Fibre 3.8*/.  Ash 7.8*/.  Vitamin A12,000iu/kg  Vitamin D3 1,2000iu/kg
Vit E 600iu/kg  Copper 12mg/kg      No added colourants, flavorings or preservatives.
so what do you all think then ???
Cheers
Suzi

I've only tried the sample,so cant tell you if my dogs would do well on it or not,but they did like it which doesnt really mean much .The salmon flavour was spoken about last week  http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/91673.html

Protein content a litter higher than Arden Grange, which my add to hyperactivity in your breed but other than that looks good.  Having a look at that myself now and will PM you later.

Beat Echo

Looked at it all again.  Firstly, when you change puppy to a new food don't swap and change too much.  Beardies can have sensitive stomachs and your puppy is only a few months old so for her I would stick with what you have for the minute.  You can only try to see if it suites Mable and if it does great keep going.

It is difficult to do a proper comparison without knowing what age the sample was aimed at but looking at a good Junior food from Arden Grange the content would be-

Chicken Meal* (min 31%), Whole Grain Rice (min 19%), Whole Grain Maize, Chicken Fat*, Beet Pulp, Fresh Chicken (min 5%), Dried Brewer's Yeast, Egg Powder, Fish Meal*, Linseed, Fish Oil*, Minerals, Vitamins, Nucleotides, Prebiotic FOS, Prebiotic MOS, Cranberry Extract, Chondroitin Sulphate, Glucosamine Sulphate, MSM, Yucca Extract. *Preserved with mixed tocopherols and rosemary extract.

Looking at it a different way you can say Arden Grange has

Protein 28%,
Oil 18%,
Fibre 2.5%,
Ash 7%,
Moisture 8%,

Omega6 4%,
Omega3 0.7%,
Vitamin A 20000 IU/kg,
Vitamin D3 1350 IU/kg,
Vitamin E 135 IU/kg,

Calcium 1.3%,
Phosphorous P 0.85%,
Copper 22 mg/kg (as Cupric Sulphate).

Typically as you go into adult feeding the protein levels drop to 25%. 

It is a case of suck it and see.  Let me know how she gets on.  I am really interested in this one. 

Just to add that it is interesting that Arden Grange site Rosemary as a preservative when Wainrights say it contains no preservatives.  There is no law at present, as I understand, that forces pet food producers to label what might be called a natural preservative as a preservative if you get my meaning.

Why the added sodium chloride or is it just that you do not have to declare salt and wainwrights have ?
Otherwise I do not see why salt is necessary and is it not a preservative?

Salt is necessary in dried food to encourage animals to drink enough water to make it digestible without becoming dehydrated. Dogs fed on dried food need to drink a lot more water than those fed on wet food.

I expect Wainwrights mean that their food contains no artificial preservatives.

I don't believe salt is added to encourage drinking water.  

Salt is a natural preservative.  It is also one of the elements necessary for the body to function.   Hence, if you assume that a dog will only eat one type of food (a dry complete, for example) if there is not sufficient salt in the ingredients it needs to be added as a supplemented.

(A truly "salt-free" diet would mean death to man or pooch.) 

Hi
I,ve used wainrights salmon food in the past with good results.
I,m happy to use that or Arden Grange for my girl if thats any help

I agree cairnmania- it makes no sense to add salt just to make them drink more. Dried food is a meal in itself, there is no beneficial factor in manufacuering a food to make a dog drink more water

Hi, I was giving my dogs Nutro but due to the recent serious health problems with dogs eating Nutro I have since stopped using it. I purchased Wainwrights really only as a last resort, looking for something natural was hard with the £35 per 15kg price range. My dogs have been on this for a week now and like it no tummy problems and my dogs are very sensitive to change, they seem to enjoy eating it as well.  Overall I think its good, not sure if I will continue to buy. It put me off as its not 100% natural (no preservative,additives etc) they do have a samll amount in the food which I dont really like.

Good quailty food.

hi  ive been using this food now for about 2months all my girls are on this and love it !!! looking very well on it too 1 of my girls has a very sensitive tum ,carnt eat rice or alot of different meats we tried this and its working for her mostly !!! she still gets runs now and again but nothing like she used to get im very happy with it and im sticking to it for now ....

i must say we are using the fish and potato 1 ..

i bought a bag on monday of fish and potato beacuse i run out of james welloved fish beacuse it was nearly the same inget,
the spanish are ok on it and it cheaper than james welloved £4

I've tried both Wainwrights and the posher PAH food in the foil bags and both are good and do the trick, though I tend to stick to the senior recipe (for my 4 year old!) simply because I prefer the protein and oil content. Digestion and coat both fine. There's a http://www.pet-food-choice.co.uk/Pets_at_Home_Wainwrights_pet_food.htm

Well i have used wainwrights for a long while now and never had a problem with it...but stupidly 3 weeks ago thought i would try JWB for a change...i know we shouldnt do that but we do dont we,well you guessed it yes it gave them the runs, so we are back on ourfaithful wainwrights salmon and potato,within a day girls back to normal.
Smack on the hand for me.